How Do I Know If My PPK or PP is Commercial or Military? | WW2 Pre-1946 Walther Pistol Variations

Published on June 8, 2019
Duration: 10:54

This guide, drawing on the expertise of Tom from Legacy Collectibles, details how to differentiate between commercial and military-issued Walther PP and PPK pistols manufactured before 1946. It emphasizes the critical role of specific proof marks ('Crown N', 'Eagle N', 'Waffen 359'), serial number ranges, and accessory markings (like matching magazines or Luftwaffe-stamped holsters) in authenticating these historical firearms. Understanding these nuances is key for collectors to accurately identify military contract pistols versus privately purchased commercial models.

Quick Summary

Distinguish military from commercial Walther PP/PPK pistols (pre-1946) by examining proof marks: 'Waffen 359'/'WaA359' indicate military issue, while 'Crown N'/'Eagle N' are commercial. Check for matching serial numbers on magazines and specific military markings on holsters for definitive authentication.

Chapters

  1. 00:00Introduction to Walther PP and PPK Variations
  2. 01:12Commercial Proof Marks vs. Military Proofs
  3. 03:10Identifying Military Waffen Proofs
  4. 04:01Military PPK Variations (1st - 4th)
  5. 06:49Military PP Variations (1st - 5th)
  6. 10:28Conclusion and Data Collection

Frequently Asked Questions

How can I tell if my Walther PPK or PP is a military model from WWII?

Military Walther PPK and PP pistols from WWII are identified by specific 'Waffen' proof marks like Eagle 359 or WaA359, unlike commercial models which use 'Crown N' or 'Eagle N'. Look for matching serial numbers on magazines and specific military markings on holsters for further confirmation.

What is the difference between 'Eagle N' and 'Waffen 359' proof marks on Walther pistols?

The 'Eagle N' mark is a commercial firing proof used from around 1940 onwards, indicating the pistol passed commercial standards. The 'Waffen 359' (or WaA359) is a military acceptance proof, signifying official issue to German armed forces during WWII.

Are serial number ranges important for identifying military Walther PP/PPK pistols?

Yes, specific serial number ranges are crucial for identifying military contracts and variations of Walther PP and PPK pistols. Experts often provide 'cheat sheets' with these ranges to aid collectors in authentication.

Can a German officer's pistol be both commercial and military?

Yes, many German officers privately purchased commercial Walther pistols. While these bear commercial proof marks ('Crown N' or 'Eagle N'), they were still used in a military capacity by the officer, complicating simple identification based solely on proof marks.

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