The Berthier After World War One

Published on July 31, 2017
Duration: 17:18

This guide details the visual identification of key modifications made to the Berthier M16 carbine after World War I, based on expert analysis. It covers changes in sights, sling attachments, serial number placement, clearing rod provisions, ammunition compatibility ('N' stamp), and late-production finishes ('PK' marking). Understanding these features is crucial for collectors and historians identifying specific production runs and upgrades.

Quick Summary

The Berthier M16 carbine underwent significant modifications post-WWI, including improved sights, sling attachments, and serial number visibility. Crucially, 'N' stamps indicate upgrades for the 8mm Balle N cartridge, while 'PK' markings denote a durable phosphated and black lacquer finish for colonial service.

Chapters

  1. 00:00Introduction to Post-WWI Berthier
  2. 01:29Post-War Military Priorities
  3. 05:59Early Sights and Sling Modifications
  4. 07:12Serial Number and Sight Height Changes
  5. 08:45Handguard and Rear Sight Refinements
  6. 10:24Removal of Clearing Rods
  7. 13:01The 1932 N Cartridge Upgrade
  8. 14:21Final Finishes and WWII Service

Frequently Asked Questions

What were the key modifications to the Berthier M16 carbine after World War I?

Post-WWI, the Berthier M16 saw changes including wider front sights, side-mounted sling bars, taller rear sights ('A' marking), handguard cutouts for serial numbers, wood-filled clearing rod slots, and markings ('N' stamp) for 8mm Balle N ammunition compatibility. Late models also featured a phosphated and black lacquer finish ('PK').

Why did the Berthier M16 carbine remain in production after WWI?

Despite being an older design, the Berthier M16 carbine continued production because the French military prioritized resources for developing new light machine guns (like the FM 24/29) and modern cartridges (7.5mm French), delaying infantry rifle modernization efforts.

How can one identify a Berthier M16 carbine modified for the 8mm Balle N cartridge?

Rifles modified to safely fire the higher-pressure 8mm Balle N cartridge are marked with a large 'N' stamp, typically found on the receiver bridge and barrel shank. This modification involved reaming the chamber to accommodate the cartridge's larger neck diameter.

What was the purpose of the 'PK' marking on late-production Berthier carbines?

The 'PK' marking indicates that the Berthier carbine received a phosphated (Parkerized) finish followed by a durable black lacquer. This treatment was applied in the mid-1930s to enhance resistance to corrosion and humidity, especially for use in colonial environments.

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