Honor Guard Pistol Not Drop Safe! Christmas Round Table 🇺🇸Hank Strange🦅Who Moved My Freedom #115

Published on December 20, 2017
Duration: 166:50

This video details a critical drop-safe issue discovered in the Honor Defense Honor Guard pistol, which appears to share design similarities with the SIG Sauer P320. The presenter, Patrick R, demonstrates how the Honor Guard, like the P320, can discharge when dropped at a specific angle, a phenomenon he attributes to internal mechanics involving the sear and striker. He highlights that Honor Defense was contacted but allegedly attempted to stifle the information, and the firearm media outlet, The Firearm Blog, also faced pressure not to report on the issue. The discussion also touches on the broader implications of firearm safety, manufacturer responsibility, and the challenges content creators face in reporting critical findings.

Quick Summary

The Honor Defense Honor Guard pistol has been found to be not drop-safe, exhibiting a tendency to discharge when dropped at a specific angle. This issue is attributed to internal mechanical factors, including the sear and striker angles, and the apparent lack of a 'dingus' safety feature. The manufacturer, Honor Defense, was reportedly contacted but allegedly attempted to suppress this critical safety information.

Chapters

  1. 00:00Introduction and Christmas Party Theme
  2. 00:27Who Moved My Freedom Podcast Episode 115
  3. 01:08Christmas Party Atmosphere
  4. 03:20The Honor Guard Handgun Not Drop Safe Issue
  5. 04:17Alleged Pressure to Suppress Information
  6. 06:01Link to Supporting Evidence
  7. 07:06Reasons for Stifling News
  8. 08:22Responsibility to Consumers
  9. 09:04Honor Defense Pistol Overview
  10. 10:02Lack of Response from Honor Defense President
  11. 11:33Practical vs. Aesthetic Design
  12. 11:41The Failed Honor Guard Pistol
  13. 11:55Independent Testing Confirmation
  14. 12:22Communication with Gary Ramey
  15. 13:19Did Honor Defense Know About the Flaw?
  16. 13:35Super POS with Suit Shield Discussion
  17. 14:13Gary Ramey's Character and Partnership
  18. 15:33P320 Comparison
  19. 16:18P320 Drop Safe Issue Discovery
  20. 17:07Testing All Handguns for Drop Safety
  21. 17:39Break and Call Interruption
  22. 18:01Introduction of Walter
  23. 18:33Tea Cups and Proper Etiquette
  24. 19:01Shoutouts and Viewer Engagement
  25. 20:08Viewer Shoutouts
  26. 21:34Chat Messages and Technical Issues
  27. 22:48Merry Christmas and Happy New Year Wishes
  28. 23:04Hashtag Suggestions
  29. 23:35Walter's Shirt and Christmas Tree Shirt
  30. 24:05Potential Guest Sam
  31. 24:11Mike's Request for Recap
  32. 25:05Recap of P320 and Honor Guard Issues
  33. 26:35How the Honor Guard Issue Was Discovered
  34. 27:01Comparison of P320 and Honor Guard Failures
  35. 27:27Patent Ownership and Lawsuits
  36. 29:00Honor Guard as Received from Factory
  37. 29:52Behind-the-Scenes Trauma in the Gun World
  38. 30:00Honor Defense Symposium Email
  39. 30:34Honor Defense Request to Retrieve Gun
  40. 31:09Gary Ramey's Ransom Rest Test Video
  41. 32:07Addressing Accusations of Starting Trouble
  42. 32:32YouTube Monetization and Ad Revenue
  43. 33:40Question about Glock Drop Safety
  44. 34:11Walter's Perspective and Support for Patrick
  45. 35:24Disappointment in The Firearm Blog
  46. 36:13Real Talk on Content Creator Costs
  47. 37:01Receipts for Gun Expenses
  48. 37:13Importance of Supporting Content Creators
  49. 38:11Specific Equipment Costs for Reviews
  50. 39:01Tax Write-offs for Gun Expenses
  51. 39:15Different Types of YouTubers
  52. 40:10Sacrifices Made by Gun Buyers
  53. 40:36Picturing the Consumer When Making Videos
  54. 41:26The Crime of Withholding Information
  55. 41:37Analogy: Cut Brake Lines
  56. 41:55Manufacturer's Responsibility to Test
  57. 42:08Inability to Stop All Information
  58. 42:29Manufacturers Treating New Media Like Old Media
  59. 42:51Being Called Unprofessional
  60. 43:06Genuine vs. Scripted Delivery
  61. 43:21Understanding Grief and Greed
  62. 43:49Gary Ramey's Personal Test
  63. 44:22Ignorance of Proper Testing Methods
  64. 44:27Analogy: Wife Cheating
  65. 45:11Willful Ignorance
  66. 45:38Audio Adjustment
  67. 46:03Cognitive Dissonance
  68. 46:33Unfortunate Reality of Mechanical Imperfections
  69. 46:41Need for Complete Redesign
  70. 46:53SIG P320 Fixes
  71. 47:09MIM Parts in Honor Defense
  72. 47:26Examining the Honor Guard Internals
  73. 47:53Material of the Sear
  74. 48:13Forces During Impact
  75. 48:46Sear Rotation or Skipping
  76. 49:01Gary Ramey's Approach and Communication
  77. 50:03Coupon Code Offer
  78. 50:25Buried Head in the Sand Strategy
  79. 50:32Hops 9 Safety Question
  80. 50:46Nitride Finish and Safety
  81. 50:48Vanessa Kitty's Question on Test Method
  82. 50:53Test Method Publication and Resources
  83. 51:48Fresh Fowler's Question on Ownership
  84. 52:02Walter's Non-Ownership of Honor Guard
  85. 52:09Mike's Smith & Wesson Comment
  86. 52:26Gun Control's Lack of Honor Guard Knowledge
  87. 52:39Avoiding New Firearms End of Year
  88. 53:02Honor Guard Introduction and Market Presence
  89. 53:32The Firearm Blog's Silence
  90. 53:51Why Test Independently?
  91. 54:20Objectivity and Avoiding Bias
  92. 54:30Supporting The Firearm Blog and Truth About Guns
  93. 54:44Disappointment in Media Practices
  94. 55:11Editor-in-Chief's Stance
  95. 55:32Transition to Wrath 47 Rifle
  96. 55:45Wrath 47 Performance
  97. 56:00Round Count and Problem Intervals
  98. 56:16Rectifying Wrongs
  99. 56:21Sam from Fortran Freedom Joins
  100. 56:43Sam's Cigar and Drink
  101. 57:02Congrats to Guerrillas and Guns
  102. 57:37The Time Show Donation
  103. 57:48Chad Patrick's Comment on Sam
  104. 57:54Christmas Party Anecdotes
  105. 58:06Past Christmas Parties vs. Present
  106. 59:10Cheaper Than Dirt Employment
  107. 59:47Cheaper Than Dirt Order Cancellation Incident
  108. 60:33Cheaper Than Dirt's Sales System Explained
  109. 61:14Drop Shipping Warehouse Issues
  110. 62:10Inventory Catch-up and System Breakdown
  111. 62:27Anvil Case Price Increase
  112. 62:51Cheaper Than Dirt's Business Practices
  113. 63:05Cheaper Than Dirt Stops Selling Guns
  114. 63:31Magazine and Ammo Shortage
  115. 63:43Owner Finds Stashed Inventory
  116. 63:59Price Jacking Strategy
  117. 64:10Loss of Customer Loyalty
  118. 64:16Capitalism and Consumer Choice
  119. 64:33Moving to Christmas Party Discussion
  120. 65:10Camera and Audio Check
  121. 66:09Mac's iPad Connection
  122. 66:14Christmas Party Attire
  123. 66:30PETA Member Friends and Lights
  124. 66:41Hunting Tirade
  125. 67:12Ugliest Gun in the World Contest
  126. 67:23FN F2000 as Ugliest Gun
  127. 67:28Big Daddy Tony's Purchase
  128. 67:43FN F2000 Functionality
  129. 67:53FN F2000 Price and Import Status
  130. 68:20Gun Broker Market Dynamics
  131. 68:26Bullpup King Claim vs. Mac
  132. 69:01Children's Drawings
  133. 69:10Santa Claus and Reindeer Theme
  134. 70:31Return to Serious Topic
  135. 70:38Truth About Guns Article on Honor Guard
  136. 71:05Honor Guard Drop Safe Story
  137. 71:11Truth About Guns Testing
  138. 71:15Trip to Roswell and Shooting Ritter
  139. 71:27Disappointment with Alien Sightings
  140. 72:06Mac's Perspective on the Issue
  141. 72:26Getting in Trouble for Reporting Truth
  142. 72:29Mac's Initial Thoughts on Honor Guard Flaw
  143. 72:41Pistol Firing from Two Independent Tests
  144. 72:54Jeremy's Less Forceful Test
  145. 73:04Gary's Ransom Rest Test Critique
  146. 73:18SIG P320 Dingus Feature
  147. 73:31Purpose of the Dingus
  148. 73:59Trigger Pull Mechanism
  149. 74:09Honor Guard Lacks Trigger Dingus
  150. 74:20Examining the Honor Guard Trigger
  151. 74:33Honor Guard Trigger Material
  152. 74:49Sear and Striker Angle Dynamics
  153. 75:03Rearward Movement on the Sear
  154. 75:14Overcoming Spring Resistance
  155. 75:47Sear Rotation and Striker Retraction
  156. 76:10Sear Movement Direction
  157. 76:19Potential Discovery by Patrick
  158. 76:22Similarity to Glock Operation
  159. 76:38Sear Surface and Spring Weakness

Frequently Asked Questions

What is the primary safety concern with the Honor Defense Honor Guard pistol?

The Honor Defense Honor Guard pistol has been identified as not drop-safe. When dropped at a specific angle, it can discharge due to internal mechanical issues related to the sear and striker, similar to problems previously found in the SIG Sauer P320.

How was the drop-safe issue with the Honor Guard pistol discovered and tested?

The issue was discovered through a hammer test, which simulates the forces of a drop. The presenter, Patrick R, demonstrated that the Honor Guard, like the P320, can fire under these conditions, suggesting a design flaw in its safety mechanisms.

What is the alleged response from Honor Defense regarding the drop-safe issue?

According to the video, Honor Defense was contacted about the safety flaw. However, they allegedly attempted to suppress the information by contacting media outlets and discouraging them from reporting on the issue.

What are the internal mechanical reasons cited for the Honor Guard's drop-safe failure?

The failure is attributed to the pistol's internal mechanics, specifically the sear angle and striker angle. The absence of a 'dingus' (a safety component found in some firearms) and the way the sear moves during impact are believed to contribute to the striker firing.

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