Why I Don't Recommend the Sig P320 or P365...

Published on March 16, 2025
Duration: 17:23

This video explains why the presenter, a firearms instructor with over a decade of experience, no longer recommends Sig Sauer's P320 and P365 striker-fired pistols. He details historical issues like the P320's original lack of drop safety, mysterious unintentional discharges, and out-of-battery detonations. For the P365, he highlights concerns with striker drag, firing pin breakages, and trigger return spring failures. The presenter emphasizes that while these firearms may work for many, the documented history of issues presents an unacceptable risk for him personally, especially when numerous reliable alternatives exist.

Quick Summary

Firearms instructor Brett from Nightwood Guns advises against recommending Sig Sauer P320 and P365 striker-fired pistols due to a history of safety and reliability concerns. Issues include the P320's original lack of drop safety, out-of-battery detonations, and the P365's firing pin breakages and trigger return spring failures, which the presenter believes Sig has not adequately addressed through recalls.

Chapters

  1. 00:00Introduction: Sig P320 & P365 Concerns
  2. 00:07Presenter's Background and Opinion
  3. 00:44Not a Sig Hater: P320 Spectre Comp Mention
  4. 00:54Why I Don't Run Sig Striker-Fired Pistols
  5. 01:01Hammer-Fired Sig Models (226, 229, 220)
  6. 01:09P320 Inception and Early Issues
  7. 01:16P320 Not Drop Safe: Trigger Shoe Issue
  8. 01:35Hammer Strikes Causing P320 Discharge
  9. 01:41P320 as a Modified P250 Design
  10. 01:54Sig's Knowledge of P320 Safety Flaws
  11. 02:01Voluntary Upgrade vs. Recall
  12. 02:14Consumer Perspective on P320 Issues
  13. 02:27P320 vs. 1911/2011 Drop Safety
  14. 02:41P320 Discharge Direction vs. 1911
  15. 03:31Current P320 Issues & Primal Rights Video
  16. 03:42Current P320 Recommendation Status
  17. 03:50Bickering: Negligence vs. Gun Fault
  18. 04:09Presenter's Opinion: Both Factors
  19. 04:13Lack of Mechanical Evidence vs. User Error
  20. 04:21Sig's Repair Process and Admission
  21. 04:44Sig's First P320 Social Media Post
  22. 05:34Sig's Second P320 Post & Dismissed Case
  23. 05:55Sig Settled & Lost Lawsuits (Million Dollar Awards)
  24. 06:27Critique of Sig's Crisis Management
  25. 06:42Analogy: Car Model Always Crashing
  26. 07:20P320 vs. Other Striker-Fired Pistols (Glock, M&P, PDP)
  27. 07:46Glock Leg Explained (Training Issue)
  28. 08:22Importance of Watching Primal Rights Video
  29. 08:36Lives at Stake: Why Take a Chance?
  30. 08:46P320 Out-of-Battery Detonations
  31. 08:56Robert Burke & Modified Disconnect
  32. 09:06Summary of P320 Issues
  33. 09:43Forgot Issue: P320 Ejector on FCU
  34. 09:51Magazine Over-Seating & Ejector Damage
  35. 10:01Ejector Not Replaceable Part of FCU
  36. 10:13Sig's Response to Ejector Damage
  37. 10:30Potential Design Flaw from Steyr?
  38. 10:45Conclusion on P320 Design
  39. 10:49P365 Issues: Striker Drag & Broken Firing Pins
  40. 11:10MIM Parts in P365
  41. 11:18P365 No Recall Despite Breakages
  42. 11:27Silent Revisions of P365 Firing Pin
  43. 11:52Sig's Profit Over Safety
  44. 12:14P365 Trigger Return Spring Failure
  45. 12:38Rental Range Experience with P365s
  46. 12:57P365 Best in Size Category (with Asterisk)
  47. 13:10Round Count Consideration for P365
  48. 13:32Alternatives for High Round Count Use
  49. 13:39Competitive Striker-Fired Market
  50. 13:53Other Manufacturers' Past Issues (Glock, S&W)
  51. 14:16Lesson: Don't Buy New Products Immediately
  52. 14:31Sig's Persistent Issues Years Later
  53. 14:41Frustration with Beta Testing Products
  54. 15:04Sig's Specific Controversies (OOB, Accidental Discharges)
  55. 15:17Court Cases, NDAs, Shady Stuff
  56. 15:21Chance of P320/P365 Being Good to Go
  57. 15:31Presenter's Personal Choice: No More P320s
  58. 15:37No Hate to P320/P365 Owners
  59. 15:50Why I Don't Recommend Them
  60. 15:59Recommended Striker-Fired Alternatives
  61. 16:19Certainty of Reliability in Alternatives
  62. 16:31Viewer Engagement: Your Thoughts?
  63. 16:43Call to Action: Subscribe & Like
  64. 16:48Support the Channel
  65. 16:55Outro

Frequently Asked Questions

What are the main safety concerns with the Sig Sauer P320?

The primary safety concern with early Sig P320 models was its lack of drop safety, meaning it could discharge if dropped due to the trigger shoe depressing. Later issues included reports of mysterious unintentional discharges and out-of-battery detonations, though the exact causes are debated.

Why does the presenter not recommend the Sig Sauer P365?

The presenter avoids the Sig P365 due to documented issues like striker drag, firing pin breakages, and trigger return spring failures. These problems can render the pistol inoperable, and the presenter criticizes Sig for silently fixing them without issuing recalls.

What are the key differences between P320 and 1911 drop safety issues?

The P320 could discharge in any direction when dropped, posing a significant risk. In contrast, a Series 70 1911, if dropped muzzle-down from shoulder height, would typically discharge into the ground due to inertia carrying the firing pin forward, with less risk of a projectile traveling unpredictably.

What are recommended alternatives to the Sig P320 and P365?

The presenter suggests several reliable striker-fired pistol alternatives, including models from Glock, Smith & Wesson (M&P 2.0 series), Walther (PDP lineup), Heckler & Koch (VP9), and CZ (P10 series), stating these are less prone to the issues seen with Sig's offerings.

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