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Vintage Gun Restorations; Caliber Comparisons: Gun Talk Radio| 6.10.18 B

Gun Talk Media
Published on June 11, 2018
Category: Gunsmithing & DIY
Duration: 44:24

Doug Turnbull of Turnbull Restorations details the intricate processes of firearm restoration, focusing on the distinction between bone charcoal and cyanide methods for color case hardening. He explains how these techniques are applied to vintage firearms like Winchesters and Colts, and how new firearms can be finished to appear antique. The discussion highlights the craftsmanship involved in achieving historically accurate finishes and the value of preserving these pieces of history.

Tags

Turnbull Restoration
Color Case Hardening
Bone Charcoal Process
Cyanide Process
Winchester Rifles
Colt Single Action
Marlin Rifles
Firearm Finishes
Antique Firearm Restoration
Custom Firearm Reproduction

Quick Summary

Doug Turnbull of Turnbull Restorations explains that the bone charcoal process is the only way to achieve authentic Winchester-style color case hardening, requiring a slow, two-hour method. Modern cyanide processes are faster but yield different aesthetic results. Turnbull Restorations works on vintage Winchesters, Colts, and other firearms, and can also apply antique finishes to new guns.

Chapters

  1. 00:00Introduction to Crimson Trace Laser Sights
  2. 00:25Gun Talk Radio Introduction
  3. 00:50Remote Broadcast Location and Weather
  4. 01:17Range of Interests in Firearms
  5. 01:39Gorgeous Guns and Doug Turnbull
  6. 02:00Guest Introduction: Doug Turnbull
  7. 02:19Discussion on Cubs and Airplanes
  8. 02:34Correlation Between Pilots and Gun Owners
  9. 02:50Calendar Feature with Super Cub
  10. 03:14Doug Turnbull's 1946 Piper Super Cub
  11. 03:26Connection Between Old Airplanes and Old Guns
  12. 03:40Origin of Turnbull Restorations
  13. 04:04Customer Feedback Driving Restoration Focus
  14. 04:25Importance of Detail in Restoration
  15. 04:32Turnbull Restoration Website
  16. 04:41Services Offered: Restoration, Finished Guns, Custom Reproductions
  17. 04:49Restoration Services for Vintage Firearms
  18. 05:15Finished Guns: Making New Guns Look Old
  19. 05:50Modifying New Winchester 1886 and 92s
  20. 06:14Caller's 35-Year-Old Marlin 1895
  21. 06:34Color Case Hardening Process
  22. 06:46Doug Turnbull's Expertise in Color Case Hardening
  23. 06:55The Science Behind Color Case Hardening
  24. 07:01Bone Charcoal Process vs. Modern Methods
  25. 07:14Modern Manufacturing and Cyanide Processes
  26. 07:30Speed of Cyanide Process
  27. 07:46Bone Charcoal: A Two-Hour Process
  28. 08:02Bone Charcoal for Authentic Colors
  29. 08:07Distinction Between Processes
  30. 08:27Commitment to the Old Way
  31. 08:37Examples of Turnbull's Work
  32. 08:42Variety of Firearms Restored
  33. 08:55Doug Turnbull Signature .475 Caliber
  34. 09:01Development of the .475 Caliber
  35. 09:24Winchester .46 WCF and .474 Bullet
  36. 09:49Creating the .475 Express Cartridge
  37. 10:16Bullet Design for the .475 Caliber
  38. 10:33Bullet Expansion Characteristics
  39. 10:51Hunting Success with the .475 Caliber
  40. 11:05Gorgeous Rifle and Upcoming Break
  41. 11:14Caller's Gunsmith Question
  42. 11:21Recap and Contact Information
  43. 11:38Ruger American Rifle Advertisement
  44. 12:05Black Hills Ammunition Advertisement
  45. 12:42US Sportsmen's Alliance Advertisement
  46. 13:06Armed Citizens Legal Defense Network Advertisement
  47. 13:48Back from Break: Gorgeous Guns
  48. 13:51Tom Selleck and His Guns
  49. 14:06Working with Tom Selleck
  50. 14:21Tom Selleck's Attention to Detail
  51. 14:49Jesse Stone Show and 1911 Pistol
  52. 15:14Building Rifles with Input
  53. 15:23Caller Henry from Burbank
  54. 15:27Henry's Gunsmithing Question
  55. 15:42Henry's Fiber Optic Sight Question
  56. 16:34Doug Turnbull's Response on Fiber Optics
  57. 17:11Clarification on Henry's Question
  58. 17:24Making the Fiber Optic Mount Holder
  59. 17:32Advice on Outsourcing Complex Tasks
  60. 17:51Oil Resistance of Fiber Optics
  61. 18:07Out of Wheelhouse
  62. 18:14Interest in Antique-Looking Guns
  63. 18:26The Appeal of Unique Firearms
  64. 18:40Market Shift Towards Unique and Vintage Firearms
  65. 19:11Old is New Again: Lugers and Bird's Head Actions
  66. 19:22Contrast with AR-15 and Ammo Hoarding
  67. 19:36The 'Wow' Factor of Unique Firearms
  68. 19:50Restored Guns Becoming 'Safe Queens'
  69. 20:16No Reason Not to Shoot Restored Guns
  70. 20:22Doug's Personal .475 Rifle
  71. 20:37Adventures with a Restored Rifle
  72. 21:03Features of the Custom Rifle
  73. 21:16Using and Enjoying High-End Firearms
  74. 21:26Stories and Memories Associated with Firearms
  75. 21:51Thank You and Website Reminder
  76. 22:00Future Plans: Shooting and Flying
  77. 22:08Proximity of Airfield
  78. 22:17Call to Action: 866 Talk Gun
  79. 22:21Listener Call-in Topic: Hunting with Pretty Guns
  80. 22:43Gun Talk Encourages Supporting Local Businesses
  81. 22:58Tom Gresham's Affiliation
  82. 23:06Continuing the Conversation
  83. 23:10Tom Gresham's Social Media
  84. 23:16Gun Talk Social Media Presence
  85. 23:21Gun Talk Videos on Multiple Platforms
  86. 23:43Caller Benny from Corpus Christi
  87. 23:46Benny's Question about .243 Caliber
  88. 23:51Benny's .243 Rifle Setup
  89. 24:12Transition to 6.5 Creedmoor
  90. 24:28Comparison: 6mm vs. 6.5 Creedmoor vs. 26 Nosler
  91. 24:39Recoil and Recovery in Competition
  92. 25:15Higher BC Bullets and Twist Rate
  93. 25:32Balancing Velocity and Recoil
  94. 25:51Benny's .243 Winchester Details
  95. 26:01Praise for the .243 Caliber
  96. 26:40Recoil of the .243 in a Rossi Single Shot
  97. 27:15Comparing .243, 6mm, and 6 Creedmoor
  98. 27:28When to Consider 6 Creedmoor
  99. 27:46Hunting Effectiveness of .243 and 6mm
  100. 27:54Mention of .243 AI Improved
  101. 28:10Improving .243 Performance with Twist Rate
  102. 28:26Benny's Rifle Twist Rate
  103. 28:42Handloading Requirement for Faster Twists
  104. 28:52Factory Ammunition Advantage of 6 Creedmoor
  105. 29:05Hunting Feral Hogs
  106. 29:23Effectiveness of 6mm on Hogs
  107. 29:32Shot Placement and Bullet Control
  108. 29:42Farewell to Benny
  109. 29:53Call to Action: 866 Talk Gun
  110. 30:21Smith & Wesson SW22 Victory Advertisement
  111. 30:50First Person Defender Advertisement
  112. 31:23WhereToShoot.org Advertisement
  113. 31:50Ducks Unlimited Advertisement
  114. 32:32Broward County Sheriff's Office Incident
  115. 32:36Paramedics Denied Entry to Parkland School
  116. 33:14Time is Life: Importance of Immediate Medical Access
  117. 33:32Trained Rescue Task Force Teams
  118. 33:53Criticism of Broward County Sheriff's Office Actions
  119. 34:03Personal Opinion on Sheriff Scott Israel
  120. 34:17Disobeying Orders in Life-Saving Situations
  121. 34:55Concerns About the Parkland Shooting Response
  122. 35:36Caller Gary from Fresno, CA
  123. 35:41California Gun Laws and Jeffrey Scott Cushman Case
  124. 36:19Compliance and Arrest in California
  125. 36:55Tyranny of California Gun Registration
  126. 37:06Low Compliance Rates with New Laws
  127. 37:20Forcing Law-Abiding Citizens into Lawbreaking
  128. 37:42Appreciation for Gary's Call
  129. 37:45Caller Brian from Huntsville, AL
  130. 37:49Brian's Thoughts on Hunting with Pretty Guns
  131. 38:01A Functional Firearm is a Pretty Firearm
  132. 38:13Subjectivity of Firearm Aesthetics
  133. 38:30Brian's Personal Collection
  134. 38:55The Joy of Using Attractive Firearms
  135. 39:08Building Memories with Firearms
  136. 39:23Call to Action: Hunt with a Gorgeous Gun?
  137. 39:39Music Break
  138. 39:45Discussion on Ballistics and Gun Geek Topics
  139. 39:51Caller Stan from Fresno, CA
  140. 39:55Stan's 6mm Remington Rifle
  141. 40:07Stan's Rifle Build and History
  142. 40:41Putting the Rifle Together
  143. 40:50Stan's Opinion on Caliber Switching
  144. 41:04Accuracy and Sticking with What Works
  145. 41:156mm Remington Accuracy
  146. 41:29Stan's Rifle Twist Rate
  147. 41:31Tom Gresham's Story About a Loaned Rifle
  148. 41:38The Bizarre Rifle Incident
  149. 42:02Stock Cut Down on Loaned Rifle
  150. 42:27Poor Choice of Borrower
  151. 42:35Unbelievable Action
  152. 43:03Current 6mm Remington Rifle Ownership
  153. 43:11Preference for 6mm Remington
  154. 43:17Obsolete Ammunition for 6mm Remington
  155. 43:21Velocity Comparison: 6mm Rem vs. .243
  156. 43:31Barnes TSX Bullet Load
  157. 43:43Upcoming Topics: Gun Rights and Favorite Rifles
  158. 43:54Social Media Platforms and Hate Groups
  159. 44:05Deciding Which Groups are Hate Groups
  160. 44:13Unbelievable and Not Surprising

Frequently Asked Questions

What is the difference between bone charcoal and cyanide case hardening?

The bone charcoal process is a slow, two-hour method essential for achieving authentic Winchester-style color case hardening. In contrast, the modern cyanide process is much faster, taking about 10 minutes at 1,400 degrees, and produces a different, though still attractive, finish. Each process yields unique aesthetic results.

What types of firearms does Turnbull Restorations work on?

Turnbull Restorations specializes in a wide range of firearms, including vintage Winchester lever-action rifles (models like the 1886, 92, and 73), Colt single-action revolvers, American side-by-side shotguns, and various semi-automatic firearms. They also offer services to make new firearms appear antique.

Can new firearms be made to look like antique guns?

Yes, Turnbull Restorations offers a 'finished guns' service where they take brand-new firearms and apply antique-style finishes. This includes replicating the patina, wood color, and even modifying safety features to match historical models, making a new gun look like a vintage piece.

What is the Doug Turnbull Signature .475 caliber?

The Doug Turnbull Signature .475 caliber is a custom cartridge developed by Doug Turnbull. It's based on the 50 Express case, blown out to .474, and designed to push a 400-grain bullet at 2050 feet per second with low pressure. It features a unique bullet design for significant expansion.

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