Apache Arms Carbine: A Saga of Compliance and Crappy Manufacture

Published on November 3, 2025
Duration: 18:13

The Apache Arms Carbine was a 1960s attempt to create a cheaper, semi-automatic alternative to the Thompson SMG, designed for compliance with firearm regulations. It utilized M3 Grease Gun magazines and featured crude cast aluminum components and a simple steel tube receiver. Despite initial IRS approval, the company quickly went bankrupt due to poor business management, leaving the carbine as a historically interesting but poorly manufactured firearm.

Quick Summary

The Apache Arms Carbine was a 1960s semi-automatic Thompson SMG knock-off designed for compliance, using M3 Grease Gun magazines and featuring crude cast aluminum parts and a steel tube receiver. Despite IRS approval, poor manufacturing and business mismanagement led to the company's bankruptcy.

Chapters

  1. 00:00Introduction to the Apache Arms Carbine
  2. 00:44The Spitfire Predecessor & ATF Issues
  3. 01:58Design for Compliance: Receiver & Fire Control
  4. 03:51Controls and M3 Grease Gun Magazines
  5. 04:55Furniture and Crude Construction
  6. 07:05Disassembly and Internal Components
  7. 11:30Fire Control, IRS Letters & Compliance
  8. 13:28Business History, Bankruptcy & Value

Frequently Asked Questions

What was the Apache Arms Carbine designed to be?

The Apache Arms Carbine was designed as a semi-automatic, closed-bolt firearm intended to be a cheaper, compliant alternative to the Thompson submachine gun, manufactured in the 1960s.

Why did Apache Arms use M3 Grease Gun magazines?

Apache Arms opted for M3 Grease Gun magazines because they were cheaper and easier to integrate into the carbine's design compared to original Thompson magazines.

What were the main manufacturing flaws of the Apache Arms Carbine?

The carbine suffered from poor manufacturing, featuring crude cast aluminum parts for the muzzle device and grip, a non-removable firing pin welded in place, and a simple bent steel tube receiver.

What led to the failure of Apache Arms?

Apache Arms went bankrupt relatively quickly due to significant business mismanagement and a lack of market viability, despite their carbine initially receiving IRS approval for its semi-automatic design.

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