But seriously with the thumbs

Published on December 21, 2025
Duration: 16:27

This guide details Ben Stoeger's 'floaty thumbs' grip philosophy, emphasizing a relaxed thumb position for recoil management and consistent target return. It covers specific applications for 2011 platforms, including thumb placement on the safety, and warns against common grip malfunctions like riding the slide. The technique focuses on isolating the trigger finger for precise control.

Quick Summary

The 'floaty thumbs' grip technique, advocated by Ben Stoeger, involves letting thumbs rest naturally off the firearm frame rather than applying pressure. For 2011s, place the thumb on top of the safety. Avoid riding the slide to prevent malfunctions. This method enhances recoil management and consistent target return.

Chapters

  1. 00:00Floaty Thumbs Philosophy Explained
  2. 00:502011 Safety & Holster Risks
  3. 03:04Critique of Thumb Rests (Gas Pedals)
  4. 04:46Optimal Thumb Placement on 2011s
  5. 06:54Common Grip Malfunctions & Thumbs Forward
  6. 08:49Grip Input Sensitivity: 2011 vs. Polymer
  7. 11:16Why You Shouldn't Ride the Slide
  8. 12:01Isolating the Trigger Finger Drill

Frequently Asked Questions

What is the 'floaty thumbs' grip technique?

The 'floaty thumbs' grip, as taught by Ben Stoeger, involves letting your thumbs rest naturally off the sides of the firearm's frame instead of actively pressing into it. This technique aims to reduce interference with recoil and promote a more stable shooting platform.

How should thumbs be placed on a 2011 pistol?

For 2011-style pistols, Ben Stoeger recommends riding the firing hand thumb on top of the manual thumb safety. This prevents accidental engagement during recoil and provides a consistent point of contact for your grip.

Why should you avoid riding the slide?

Riding the slide with your thumbs, whether intentional or not, can create friction that interferes with the firearm's cycling mechanism. This can lead to malfunctions, inconsistent timing, and failure to feed or eject properly.

Are thumb rests ('gas pedals') beneficial?

Ben Stoeger finds thumb rests annoying as they can interfere with re-gripping. He argues that applying consistent active pressure to them is difficult and can negatively affect accuracy, preferring a more relaxed grip.

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