Forward Controls Design sucks and other banter

Published on November 15, 2024
Duration: 13:50

This discussion contrasts the Forward Controls Design (FCD) optic plate with the Arisaka Defense plate, highlighting issues with FCD's hardware labeling, screw length, and plate fitment. The Arisaka plate is praised for its labeled hardware, included Loctite and paint pen, and a more secure fit. The conversation also touches on the challenges of sourcing correct hardware and the perceived shortcomings of FCD's support for certain optics like the Holosun.

Quick Summary

The Forward Controls Design optic plate faces criticism for its poorly labeled and often incorrect hardware, leading to installation difficulties and improper fitment. In contrast, Arisaka Defense plates offer a superior user experience with organized, labeled hardware, including Loctite, and a more secure, precise fit on the firearm slide.

Chapters

  1. 00:03Firearm Failures and Optic Issues
  2. 00:24Forward Controls Design Plate Discussion
  3. 01:17Arisaka Defense Plate Features
  4. 02:31FCD Plate Hardware Problems
  5. 03:52Arisaka vs. FCD: Price and Quality
  6. 06:04Arisaka Low Rider Plate Details
  7. 06:44Frustration with Unlabeled Hardware
  8. 08:00FCD Plate Issues: Loose Fit & Unlabeled Hardware
  9. 08:08Criticism of FCD's Optic Support Policy
  10. 09:52CH Plate Failures and Design
  11. 10:44Old Glock with SRO Failure
  12. 11:37Seized Screw and Striker Sleeve Damage
  13. 12:32Extraction Issues on High-Round Count Glock
  14. 13:04Glock Parts Replacement and Reliability

Frequently Asked Questions

What are the main criticisms of the Forward Controls Design optic plate?

The primary criticisms of the Forward Controls Design optic plate include poorly labeled and often incorrect hardware, leading to installation difficulties. Issues with screw length causing the plate to buckle or not seat properly, and a perceived lack of support for certain optics like Holosun, are also significant concerns.

How does the Arisaka Defense optic plate compare to the Forward Controls Design plate?

The Arisaka Defense optic plate is generally preferred for its organized, labeled hardware kit, which includes Loctite and a paint pen. It offers a more secure and precise fit on the firearm slide, unlike the FCD plate which can be loose and prone to buckling due to incorrect screw lengths.

Why is hardware labeling important for optic plates?

Hardware labeling is crucial for optic plates to ensure correct installation. Without clear labels, users must guess which screws to use for attaching the plate to the slide and the optic to the plate, increasing the risk of using incorrect lengths that can cause damage, poor fitment, or component failure.

What are the implications of a company not supporting certain optics like Holosun?

When a company like Forward Controls Design refuses to support optics they deem not 'duty grade,' it limits customer choice and can lead to compatibility issues. This approach can alienate users who prefer or rely on those specific optics, forcing them to seek alternative mounting solutions or different manufacturers.

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