I am done with Sig

Published on May 4, 2025
Duration: 21:04

This video discusses ongoing concerns and incidents related to the SIG P320's potential for uncommanded discharges, particularly in holsters. The speaker, Ben Stoeger, expresses a personal decision to cease purchasing SIG products due to these issues and the company's perceived handling of them. The content includes analysis of community feedback, reports from other instructors, and historical context of SIG's product issue management.

Quick Summary

The SIG P320 faces controversy due to reports of uncommanded discharges, where the firearm can fire without the trigger being pulled, often occurring in holsters. SIG updated its manual advising against carrying with a round in the chamber, a move seen by some as an implicit acknowledgment of safety concerns.

Chapters

  1. 00:00Introduction: SIG P320 Controversy
  2. 00:11GBRS Group's Defense of SIG
  3. 00:34Protraand's 2019 P320 Incident Video
  4. 01:03Hunter Freeland's P320 Experiences
  5. 01:19Old SIG Video and Comment Section
  6. 01:40Flood of Information on P320 Issues
  7. 01:51Ben Stoeger's Decision: No More SIG
  8. 02:33Curiosity About Viewer Opinions
  9. 03:20Analyzing GBRS Video Comments
  10. 04:31P320s Flooding Armslist
  11. 05:18DoD Investigating M17 Program
  12. 05:42SIG's Manual Update as Admission
  13. 06:18Evolution of Opinion on P320 Safety
  14. 06:37Top Shooters vs. Tactical Operators
  15. 07:22GBRS Perceived as SIG Shill
  16. 07:35P320 Won't Go Off Without Trigger Pull vs. Without Trigger Pull
  17. 08:20SIG's History of Denying Issues (P229/P220)
  18. 09:2620 Years Later, Same Old SIG
  19. 09:31Personal Stance on Boycotting Companies
  20. 10:42Glock 45 Drop vs. P320
  21. 11:15USMC Investigating P320
  22. 11:44Antagonistic Comments Analysis
  23. 12:14Hunter Freeland's Non-Holstered Incidents
  24. 12:36Carrying Glock 19/P365, P320 as Range Gun
  25. 12:48Evolution of Belief on P320 Issues
  26. 13:19Out of Battery Detonation vs. Discharge
  27. 13:50Analyzing Footage of Uncommanded Discharges
  28. 14:56Information Influences Opinion
  29. 15:00Is Ben Stoeger Only Bashing P320s?
  30. 15:32SIG Avoiding Responsibility Since Beginning
  31. 16:02Love M18, Don't Defend SIG
  32. 16:12More People Shifting to Believe P320 Issues
  33. 16:34Burden of Proof: Weapon Safety
  34. 17:20Recreating P320 Discharge Without Trigger Pull
  35. 17:53Consumer View: Lots of Smoke
  36. 18:18Not Mad at GBRS Video
  37. 18:32Informed Decision: Don't Buy/Carry P320
  38. 18:48Gun Stores Selling Used P320s
  39. 19:02Manual Safety P320s
  40. 19:24Criticism of Taking Opinions from 'Trench Grenade'
  41. 19:33GBRS Dick Riding SIG
  42. 19:41Shipley as Paid Shill for SIG
  43. 20:06Police Officer P320 Discharge Incident
  44. 20:39Too Much Coincidence: All NDs from SIG?
  45. 20:45Conclusion: Ongoing Discussion

Frequently Asked Questions

What is the main controversy surrounding the SIG P320?

The primary controversy involves the SIG P320's potential for uncommanded discharges, meaning the firearm can fire without the trigger being pulled. This has led to significant debate and concern within the firearms community regarding its safety, especially when carried in a holster.

Has SIG Sauer acknowledged issues with the P320?

While SIG Sauer has not issued a formal recall for uncommanded discharges, they updated the P320 manual to advise against carrying the firearm with a round in the chamber. This change is interpreted by some as an implicit acknowledgment of potential safety concerns.

What is Ben Stoeger's stance on SIG Sauer products?

Firearms instructor Ben Stoeger has stated he will no longer purchase SIG Sauer products. He cites the ongoing issues with the P320 and his perception of the company's handling of these problems as the reasons for his decision.

Are other organizations investigating the SIG P320 or its variants?

Yes, reports indicate that the U.S. Department of Defense (DoD) and the U.S. Marine Corps (USMC) are investigating the M17 program, which utilizes a variant of the SIG P320. This suggests official scrutiny of the platform's reliability and safety.

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