House Floor Hearing For SB25-003 | The 2nd Syndicate Live Stream

Published on March 22, 2025
Duration: 677:58

This video documents a House Floor Hearing for Colorado Senate Bill 25-003, focusing on an amendment (L66) that addresses the bill's fiscal implications and its perceived infringement on Second Amendment rights. Legislators debate the bill's impact on individual liberties, government control, and fiscal responsibility, with strong arguments presented against the bill's perceived overreach and potential financial strain on taxpayers. The discussion highlights concerns about continuous appropriations, unfunded mandates, and the fundamental right to self-defense.

Chapters

  1. 00:00Opening Remarks on Constitutional Rights
  2. 00:36Representative Bottoms Speaks on Amendment
  3. 01:01Bill as Attack on the People
  4. 01:30Second Amendment vs. Tyrannical Government
  5. 02:07Colorado as Tyrannical Government
  6. 02:46Extreme Powers and Second Amendment
  7. 03:12Amendment's Importance for Government Restraint
  8. 03:51Senate Bill 003 as Tyranny
  9. 04:25Amendment to Stop Tyranny
  10. 04:30Oath to Uphold the Constitution
  11. 04:44Bill Shredding Second Amendment Rights
  12. 05:07Federal Government Intervention Expected
  13. 05:32Amendment Addresses Oath of Office Violation
  14. 06:07Representative Degraph Introduced
  15. 06:14Oath of Office Recitation
  16. 06:30Interpreting the Oath of Office
  17. 07:14Bill Against the Constitution
  18. 07:26No Negotiations on Second Amendment
  19. 07:35Amendment Holds Accountable
  20. 07:44Federal Challenge and Taxpayer Suffering
  21. 08:16Reminder of Oath of Office
  22. 08:34Urging Yes Vote on Amendment
  23. 08:39Representative Degraph on Amendment L99
  24. 08:45Substitute Amendment L99
  25. 08:52Defending Rights Against Tyrannical Government
  26. 09:21Reverence for Supreme Ruler and Constitution
  27. 09:42Support for Amendment
  28. 09:55SB003: Control Under Guise of Public Safety
  29. 10:10History of Tyrants Controlling People
  30. 10:47Second Amendment for Affecting Change
  31. 10:58Second Amendment Text
  32. 11:07SB25-003: List of Infringements
  33. 11:20Majority Party's View on Infringements
  34. 11:40Questioning Government Fear of Citizens
  35. 11:56Individual Sovereignty
  36. 12:10Declaration of Independence Principles
  37. 12:42Consent of the Governed
  38. 12:50Oath to Support and Defend Constitution
  39. 13:07Defense of the People to Govern Themselves
  40. 13:23Support for Amendment: Individual Control
  41. 13:38Government Molding Citizens
  42. 14:10Goal: Flock of Industrious Animals
  43. 14:28Tyranny in the Making
  44. 14:41History as a Warning
  45. 14:52Gun Grabs Leading to Genocide
  46. 15:05Honoring Oath of Office
  47. 15:22Subjugating the People of Colorado
  48. 15:39Despicable Actions
  49. 15:41Recommendation for Amendment
  50. 15:51Representative Johnson Supports Amendment
  51. 16:06First Oath of Office Experience
  52. 16:40Dusty Johnson's Oath of Office
  53. 16:58Doing the Will of the People
  54. 17:14Upholding Fundamentally Guaranteed Rights
  55. 17:21Avoiding Perjury
  56. 17:36Serving House District 63
  57. 17:39Urging Yes Vote
  58. 17:41Representative Basenecker
  59. 17:51Request for Title Ruling
  60. 18:02Brief Recess for Title Ruling
  61. 20:25Committee Returns to Order
  62. 20:27Ruling on Substitute Amendment L099
  63. 20:40Comments on L66
  64. 20:43Representative Luck on Underlying Amendment
  65. 20:49Representative Tagert's Concerns
  66. 21:03Reading of Amendment L66
  67. 21:16Amending Appropriations Committee Report
  68. 21:39Striking Financial Details
  69. 21:49Amendment's Continuous Appropriation Clause
  70. 22:09Striking Continuously Appropriated Language
  71. 22:35Final Financial Impact of SB 25-3
  72. 22:59Fiduciary Responsibility for State Funds
  73. 23:09Fiscal Realities of Bill and Amendment
  74. 23:23Initial Fiscal Estimates vs. Reality
  75. 23:30Estimated 50,000 Applicants vs. 75,000
  76. 23:51Bill Increases Demand
  77. 24:03State Expenditures Exceeding $8 Million Annually
  78. 24:23Ongoing Costs: $6.6 Million
  79. 24:26Breakdown of Costs: Background Checks
  80. 24:32System Development and Administration Costs
  81. 24:38Legal Challenges Costs
  82. 24:46Amendment Strikes Annual Appropriation
  83. 24:51Substitution with Continuous Appropriation
  84. 25:03System Management: 35 State Employees
  85. 25:28Revenue Side: Fees from Applicants
  86. 25:35Estimated $5.5 Million Annually
  87. 25:39Shortfall of $3 Million
  88. 25:57Continuous Appropriation from Fund
  89. 26:06Shortfall Covered by General Fund
  90. 26:12Financial Impacts Beyond State Expenditures
  91. 26:19Local Mandate on Sheriffs and Law Enforcement
  92. 26:34Increased Administrative Workloads
  93. 26:39Additional Resources and Training
  94. 26:45Compliance Oversight Costs
  95. 26:51Local Mandates Not Reimbursed
  96. 26:57Budgetary Standpoint Concerns
  97. 27:03Amendment Removes Costs
  98. 27:19Continuous Appropriation Issue
  99. 27:30Ensuring Justified Costs
  100. 27:35Efficient Program Design
  101. 27:43Amendment's Impact on Statute
  102. 27:56Problem with Base Funding for Next Year
  103. 28:04Prior Year Legislation
  104. 28:07Body Must Come Up with Dollars
  105. 28:11Expense of Other Programs
  106. 28:18Discussion on Difficult Subjects
  107. 28:26Need for Fiscal Responsibility
  108. 28:29Amendment Not Fiscally Responsible
  109. 28:33End to Legislation
  110. 28:38Representative Degraph's Comments
  111. 28:45Clarification on Program Permanence
  112. 28:51Temporary Government Program
  113. 28:54Colorado's Revenue Problem
  114. 29:03Undercutting Foundational Economies
  115. 29:08Hydrocarbons and Ground Resources
  116. 29:13Increasing Administrative State
  117. 29:26Economy Struggling
  118. 29:34Bills Pretending to Help Industries
  119. 29:39Restaurant Industry Closures
  120. 29:53Inflation Devaluing Wages
  121. 30:01Debt Spending and Bidomics
  122. 30:06Devaluing Currency
  123. 30:08Shell Games and Hidden Funding
  124. 30:23Spending Imaginary Money
  125. 30:31Devaluing Wages and Increasing Costs
  126. 30:42Federal Government Printing Money
  127. 30:51Colorado Debt: $1.2 Billion
  128. 30:58Balancing Debt with Reserves
  129. 31:02Majority Party Spending Without Limit
  130. 31:13Bill as Another Expense
  131. 31:15$4.5 Billion Hole
  132. 31:20Taxpayers' Role
  133. 31:26Difference in Opinion: Citizens vs. Widgets
  134. 31:41Republican Party Treats People as Citizens
  135. 31:49Getting Rid of TABOR
  136. 31:52Dislike of Bill of Rights
  137. 31:56To the Amendment
  138. 32:00Amendment for Fiscal Responsibility
  139. 32:07US Solar Companies
  140. 32:15Cannot Keep Asking Taxpayers for Money
  141. 32:23Bill as Cut to the Economy
  142. 32:32Bleeding the Economy Out
  143. 32:34Intentional Economic Damage
  144. 32:39Winning Battle of Democracy to End It
  145. 32:45Purpose of Promising Everything
  146. 32:50Urging Yes Vote on Amendment
  147. 32:52Improve Fiscal Responsibility
  148. 32:55Insert Modicum of Fiscal Responsibility
  149. 33:03Urge No Vote
  150. 33:07No Takebacks
  151. 33:15Fiscal Responsibility Needed
  152. 33:17No More Permanent Temporary Programs
  153. 33:25Need for Responsibility
  154. 33:28Treat Citizens as Citizens
  155. 33:30Not Taxpaying Widgets
  156. 33:35Representative Hartsuk
  157. 33:37Opposition to Amendment
  158. 33:45CPW Costs: $1.4 Million
  159. 33:51OIT Costs
  160. 33:54Where is the $100,000 Coming From?
  161. 33:57CPW Costs Breakdown
  162. 34:01Staff and FTEs
  163. 34:06Ongoing Costs: $500,000 Annually
  164. 34:15Staffing and FTEs
  165. 34:21Record System Costs
  166. 34:26System Development and Implementation
  167. 34:37Estimated Vendor Cost: $900,000
  168. 34:49Million to System, $900k to Vendor
  169. 34:58Taxpayers on the Hook
  170. 35:00Accomplishments So Far
  171. 35:02System After System
  172. 35:06Taking $100,000 for OIT
  173. 35:12Office of Information Technology (OIT)
  174. 35:18OIT's Overwhelmed State
  175. 35:23Problem with OIT
  176. 35:26OIT Behind the Power Curve
  177. 35:30Securing Systems and Stopping Cyber Attacks
  178. 35:38Adding More Systems to OIT
  179. 35:46Giving OIT $100,000 for a Broken System
  180. 35:56Throwing Good Money After Bad
  181. 36:05OIT Cannot Track
  182. 36:09Audit Reports on OIT Failures
  183. 36:15Failures to Protect Systems
  184. 36:20Creating Entire Database
  185. 36:25Dislike of Database Idea
  186. 36:30Inability to Perform Current Job
  187. 36:36Cannot Protect Systems from Hackers
  188. 36:44Massive Workload for OIT
  189. 36:48$100,000 Taxpayer Money
  190. 36:51900,000 to Vendor
  191. 36:54Math Doesn't Make Sense
  192. 36:59Business Development Experience
  193. 37:01Looking at Numbers
  194. 37:08$100,000 to Department
  195. 37:14Establish and Set Up System
  196. 37:21Folks Doing Things with Little
  197. 37:27OIT Behind, New Database
  198. 37:40Makes No Sense
  199. 37:40Legality and Constitutional Effect
  200. 37:43Creating Database on Firearms
  201. 37:49Taxpayer Funded Numbers Not Doable
  202. 37:52Firearms Database Not Doable
  203. 38:00OIT Consistently Rated with Problems
  204. 38:07New Requirements on OIT
  205. 38:11Continuous Funding Year After Year
  206. 38:15On Top of $500,000 Annually
  207. 38:17On Top of $1.4 Million This Year
  208. 38:21All Taxpayer Funded
  209. 38:25Cannot Provide Other Services
  210. 38:29Healthcare and Other Obligations
  211. 38:37Taxpayer Funded Money for System
  212. 38:42Cannot Meet Other Obligations
  213. 38:46Doesn't Make Sense
  214. 38:49Urge No Vote on Amendment
  215. 38:51Representative Luck
  216. 38:57Appropriations Committee Member
  217. 39:00Importance of Cost Specifics
  218. 39:17Amendment Concerns
  219. 39:23Appropriations Committee Irrelevant
  220. 39:26Work Unessential
  221. 39:34Specific Dollar Amounts
  222. 39:39Authority as Appropriations Committee
  223. 39:55Handing Details to Joint Budget Committee
  224. 39:57Six Most Powerful People
  225. 40:04Determining Money Spent
  226. 40:10Advancing Program
  227. 40:13Ability to Give More or Less
  228. 40:23Continuously Appropriated
  229. 40:30Body Will Not Look Year-Over-Year
  230. 40:38Concerning in a Limited Fund Year
  231. 40:42Competing for Dollars
  232. 40:47$1.2 Billion Budget Cut
  233. 41:01Teachers Protesting
  234. 41:05Unions and Other Groups
  235. 41:10Requests Not to Cut Programs
  236. 41:16Prioritizing This Over Other Things
  237. 41:23Lack of Information on Spending
  238. 41:43Reject This Amendment
  239. 41:48Adopt Substitute Amendment
  240. 41:51Understanding Policies and Costs
  241. 41:56Making Knowing Decisions
  242. 41:59Embrace Priorities
  243. 42:04Move Amendment L112
  244. 42:07Substitute for L066
  245. 42:13Display Amendment
  246. 42:35Representative Lee on L112
  247. 42:41Committee Expectations
  248. 42:4450,000 Applicants Expected
  249. 42:48Three Full-Time Employees
  250. 42:5050,000 Number Reasonable
  251. 43:05CBI Statistics Challenge
  252. 43:14CBI InstaCheck Unit Statistics
  253. 43:182019-2024 Average Background Checks
  254. 43:25400,000 Background Checks Annually
  255. 43:31340,000 in 2019
  256. 43:41501,000 in 2020
  257. 43:47450,000 in 2021
  258. 43:50396,000 in 2022
  259. 43:55367,000 in 2023
  260. 43:58344,000 in 2024
  261. 44:02Over 900 Background Checks Pending
  262. 44:08A Thousand Pending Checks
  263. 44:1250,000 Number Minimal
  264. 44:15Actual Experience
  265. 44:19Half of People Desire Purchase
  266. 44:27Amendment Multiplies Appropriation by 8
  267. 44:36Original Number 50,000
  268. 44:39Looking at 400,000
  269. 44:41Eight Times as Many Applications
  270. 44:52Budget for Unalienable Right
  271. 44:56Coverage Necessary for Services
  272. 44:58Avoid Huge Backlogs
  273. 45:03Other Fundamental Rights in Backlog
  274. 45:06CBI Forensic Data
  275. 45:10Different Tests
  276. 45:15Not End Up in Boondoggle
  277. 45:18Fully Fund Policy
  278. 45:23Eliminating General Appropriation
  279. 45:28Number Aligned with Reality
  280. 45:41Responsibility of Money Allocation
  281. 45:46Monies Go
  282. 45:49From $1.1 Million
  283. 45:54Full $1.25 Million
  284. 46:00To $9.3 Million
  285. 46:03Lot of Millions
  286. 46:05Other Projects
  287. 46:07District People Clamoring
  288. 46:09Urge Yes Vote
  289. 46:12Representative Kelty
  290. 46:24Amendment for the People
  291. 46:27People Know What's Going On
  292. 46:33Coloradoans Need Truth
  293. 46:37Taxpayers Need Truth About Money
  294. 46:41Deserve to Know the Truth
  295. 46:44Busy Day to Day
  296. 46:47Not Paying Attention
  297. 46:51Have Jobs
  298. 46:56Making Money We Spend Wisely
  299. 47:00Lately We Don't
  300. 47:07Know What, How Much, Where Money Is
  301. 47:10Reality of Money
  302. 47:12Ridiculous Amount of Money
  303. 47:15Since Day One
  304. 47:18Smart Meetings
  305. 47:21Fraud, Waste, and Abuse
  306. 47:24Hidden from the People
  307. 47:29No Idea Where Money is Going
  308. 47:35Convoluted
  309. 47:37Boondoggled
  310. 47:40Bill and Previous Amendment
  311. 47:44Luck's Amendment Sound
  312. 47:47Representative Lux Amendment
  313. 47:50Displays the Truth
  314. 47:55People Need to Know
  315. 47:58Work Too Hard for Money
  316. 48:00Not Your Money, Their Money
  317. 48:08Ashamed and Embarrassed
  318. 48:12Responsibility of Taking Care of Money
  319. 48:16Day After Day, It is Wasted
  320. 48:19Apology to Colorado
  321. 48:27Fighting to Not Waste Money
  322. 48:31Out of Our Hands
  323. 48:37Fighting for Coloradans
  324. 48:39Good Amendment
  325. 48:41Representative Degraph
  326. 48:46Support for Amendment
  327. 48:51Truth in the Bill
  328. 48:56A Start
  329. 48:58Based on Actual Numbers
  330. 49:04Signaling Intent to Make Purchase Impossible
  331. 49:14Self-Defense of Home, Life, Liberty, Property
  332. 49:27Eighth of People Qualified
  333. 49:33Makes Sense
  334. 49:36Bill Intended to Have Cooling Effect
  335. 49:41Citizens or Taxpaying Widgets
  336. 49:46Limit Ability of Taxpaying Widgets
  337. 49:51Purchase Firearms for Self-Defense
  338. 49:59Lowballing the Number
  339. 50:02Not Based on Reality
  340. 50:07Putting Reality in the Bill
  341. 50:11Why Colorado Can't Balance Budget
  342. 50:13$4.5 Billion in the Hole
  343. 50:30Majority Party Members
  344. 50:35Empty Seats
  345. 50:37Decision Already Made
  346. 50:41Colorado Rights Bulldozed
  347. 50:47Majority Party
  348. 50:51Eagle's Head Hanging Low
  349. 50:58Former Free State of Colorado
  350. 51:02Effort to Honor Citizens
  351. 51:06Citizens, Not Taxpaying Widgets
  352. 51:11Insert Honesty into Bill
  353. 51:16Insert Fiscal Integrity
  354. 51:20Sorely Lacking
  355. 51:23Wakeup Call
  356. 51:26Why We're $4.5 Billion in the Hole
  357. 51:36Absolute Travesty
  358. 51:39What is Being Done with Your Money
  359. 51:42Representative Richardson
  360. 51:46Awesome Amendment
  361. 51:48Provides Clarity to the People
  362. 51:53Assurance to Those Tasked
  363. 51:58Carry Out Horrendous Bill
  364. 52:00If It Truly Takes 24 FTE
  365. 52:02Not Three
  366. 52:06Over $9 Million vs. Over One
  367. 52:09To Do This Right
  368. 52:13Bill Should Reflect That
  369. 52:18Building Inefficiency and Inability
  370. 52:21Serve the People
  371. 52:24Further Delaying Ability to Obtain Firearms
  372. 52:32Truly Their Right to Have
  373. 52:36Inserting Major Speed Bump
  374. 52:3925 or 30 or 35,000
  375. 52:42Lot in This Bill Keeps Changing
  376. 52:44Steps to Obtain a Firearm
  377. 52:47Applications Can't Be Processed
  378. 52:52Training Can't Be Tracked
  379. 52:54Not Enough Money Appropriated
  380. 52:55Not Enough People to Do Work
  381. 52:58Whole Thing Could Crash and Burn
  382. 53:00Infringement on Rights
  383. 53:03Require Bill to Be Overturned
  384. 53:07Bad Bill with Good Amendment
  385. 53:10Urge Yes Vote
  386. 53:16Representative Frlick
  387. 53:18Sponsor Wants to Spend $8 Million More
  388. 53:23Fiscal Note Process
  389. 53:34Amendments Shared with Fiscal Analyst
  390. 53:38Last Minute
  391. 53:40Ask for No Vote
  392. 53:48Representative Degraph Clarification
  393. 53:50Sponsor Wants Zero Dollars Spent
  394. 53:53Unconstitutional Bill
  395. 53:58Amendment Reflects Current Estimates
  396. 54:05Estimates of 50,000
  397. 54:08Probably 1/8 of What Should Be
  398. 54:12About 12.5% of What Should Be
  399. 54:1512.5% of What Should Be
  400. 54:17Not Sponsor Wanting to Spend More
  401. 54:20Wanting Bill to Have Fiscal Integrity
  402. 54:23What Cost Will Actually Be
  403. 54:33Numbers Not Hard to Find
  404. 54:36Why Estimated So Low
  405. 54:40Lowballing
  406. 54:45Restrictions on Bill
  407. 54:48Purpose of Bill
  408. 54:51Make Nearly Impossible to Execute Right
  409. 54:57Right to Self-Defense
  410. 55:00Life, Liberty, or Property
  411. 55:02Continual Risk
  412. 55:03Deprived by Criminals
  413. 55:08Common or Elected Criminals
  414. 55:11Not Matter of Motive
  415. 55:15Clarification: Sponsor Wants No Money Spent
  416. 55:17Colorado
  417. 55:20Majority Party Hiding Money Amount
  418. 55:24Season of $4.5 Billion Deficit
  419. 55:33Growing Deficit
  420. 55:40Amendment for Fiscal Integrity
  421. 55:42Bill is for Smoke and Mirrors
  422. 55:46Representative Luck
  423. 55:52Fiscal Notes Process
  424. 55:57Bill Folders in Pink
  425. 56:01Nonpartisan Staff
  426. 56:03Preparing Fiscal Impact Sheet
  427. 56:07Making Good Decisions
  428. 56:11Information from Departments
  429. 56:13Working Since September/October
  430. 56:15State Cutting Dollars
  431. 56:18Curious Fiscal Notes
  432. 56:22Policies Supported by Executive Branch
  433. 56:24Little to Zero Fiscal Impact
  434. 56:27Continuous Appropriations
  435. 56:32Policies Not Fond Of
  436. 56:34Enormous Cost to Departments
  437. 56:37Data Provided to Fiscal Analysts
  438. 56:42Somewhat Spun
  439. 56:44CBI Instacheck Unit Statistics
  440. 56:50400,000 Purchases Per Year
  441. 56:53Background Check Requests
  442. 57:09Fiscal Note Contemplates 50,000
  443. 57:11Future Years
  444. 57:15Significantly Reduced from Reality
  445. 57:17$8 Million Deficit in First Year
  446. 57:19Ability to Protect Yourself
  447. 57:21Infringement on Unalienable Right
  448. 57:26Only 1/8 of Current Number
  449. 57:30Continue to Exercise Right
  450. 57:34Significant Problem
  451. 57:37Latter Conversation for Later
  452. 57:43Ensure Necessary Resources
  453. 57:49Effectuate Policy
  454. 57:52People Exercise Right to Defend Themselves
  455. 57:53Families, Homes, Neighborhoods
  456. 57:59Underlying Amendment Strips Amounts
  457. 58:02Open Door for Funding
  458. 58:08Questioning Fiscal Note Accuracy
  459. 58:11Urge Yes Vote on Amendment
  460. 58:13Funding Ability for Self-Defense
  461. 58:16Make Communities Safe
  462. 58:52Representative Degraph
  463. 58:57Clarification on Sponsor's Intent
  464. 59:00Sponsor Wants Zero Dollars Spent
  465. 59:03Unconstitutional Bill
  466. 59:05Amendment Reflects Estimates
  467. 59:08Estimates of 50,000
  468. 59:101/8 of What Should Be
  469. 59:1212.5% of What Should Be
  470. 59:15Not Sponsor Wanting to Spend More
  471. 59:17Fiscal Integrity
  472. 59:20Actual Cost
  473. 59:23Numbers Not Hard to Find
  474. 59:26Lowballing
  475. 59:31Restrictions on Bill
  476. 59:34Purpose of Bill
  477. 59:36Make Nearly Impossible to Execute Right
  478. 59:39Right to Self-Defense
  479. 59:41Life, Liberty, or Property
  480. 59:44Continual Risk
  481. 59:47Deprived by Criminals
  482. 59:50Common or Elected Criminals
  483. 59:53Not Matter of Motive
  484. 59:56Clarification: Sponsor Wants No Money Spent
  485. 59:58Colorado
  486. 01:00:00Majority Party Hiding Money Amount
  487. 01:00:03Season of $4.5 Billion Deficit
  488. 01:00:06Growing Deficit

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