Sten MkII vs Ingram M10/9 (w/ John Keene)

Published on December 11, 2024
Duration: 0:35

This video features John Keene and Ian McCollum of Forgotten Weapons discussing the Sten MkII and Ingram M10/9 submachine guns. They highlight the Sten MkII's stability and the M10/9's niche application for close-quarters combat, humorously noting its potential use as a canoe anchor. The discussion touches on the challenges of designing a submachine gun that can compete with or surpass the simplicity of the Sten MkII.

Quick Summary

The Sten MkII is praised for its stability on a table, while the Ingram M10/9 is characterized as a weapon for extremely close-quarters combat, like 'a fight in a phone booth.' A suppressor on the M10/9 offers the advantage of making the weapon less recognizable.

Chapters

  1. 00:00Sten MkII Handling and Stability
  2. 00:03Ingram M10/9 Joke and Use Case
  3. 00:05Firearm Cataloging Challenge
  4. 00:10Submachine Gun Design Philosophy
  5. 00:18Excluding Richard Lage from Comparison
  6. 00:23Ingram M10/9 Close Quarters Role
  7. 00:24Sten MkII Bayonet Feature
  8. 00:25MAC Suppressor Advantage

Frequently Asked Questions

What is a key design principle discussed for submachine guns?

A key design principle highlighted is that a new submachine gun design is considered unsuccessful if potential users would still debate choosing it over a simpler, established design like the Sten MkII. This emphasizes the challenge of innovation against proven simplicity.

How is the Ingram M10/9's intended use described?

The Ingram M10/9 is described as a weapon suited for extremely close-quarters combat scenarios. This is humorously illustrated by the analogy of it being ideal for 'a fight in a phone booth,' suggesting its application in very confined spaces.

What advantage does a suppressor offer for the Ingram M10/9 (MAC)?

A significant advantage of using a suppressor on the Ingram M10/9 (MAC) is that it can help conceal the shooter's identity. The reduced noise signature makes it harder for observers to recognize that the weapon being fired is a MAC.

What practical handling difference is noted between the Sten MkII and Ingram M10/9?

The Sten MkII is noted for its superior stability when placed on a surface, making it stand up better. This suggests a more practical handling characteristic for general use compared to the Ingram M10/9.

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