MIL or MOA? MOA Sucks Part II - MOA Misconceptions and Myths

Published on July 26, 2023
Duration: 22:25

This video debunks common misconceptions about MOA (Minute of Angle) and MIL (Milliradian) reticles in long-range shooting. The instructor argues that MIL is generally more practical and less prone to error for most shooters, especially under stress or when engaging multiple targets. The video emphasizes that rifle precision is determined by group size, not just reticle fineness, and that MOA's perceived precision is often a misunderstanding of practical application.

Quick Summary

MIL (Milliradian) is often considered more practical than MOA (Minute of Angle) for long-range shooting due to simpler numerical values that reduce errors under stress and when engaging multiple targets. The actual precision of a rifle is determined by its group size, not just the fineness of the reticle adjustments.

Chapters

  1. 00:00Introduction: MOA Sucks Part II
  2. 00:16Addressing Common Comments & Misconceptions
  3. 01:10Target Audience: New & Undecided Shooters
  4. 02:01No Real Difference Argument
  5. 03:01Argument 1: Different but Equal
  6. 04:04Comment Example: Switching from MOA to MIL
  7. 05:06Comment Example: No Difference in Ease
  8. 05:40Response: Practical Application Matters
  9. 06:04Example: Multiple Targets & Holds
  10. 07:08Freeing Up Bandwidth Under Stress
  11. 08:42Argument: MIL Popularity vs. Superiority
  12. 09:44Nuanced Advantages of MIL
  13. 10:42Argument: MOA is More Precise
  14. 11:02F-Class Shooters & MOA
  15. 11:36Comment Example: MOA for Small Targets
  16. 12:20Debunking MOA Precision Claims
  17. 13:16Group Size Determines Precision
  18. 14:33What Determines Rifle Precision?
  19. 15:05Constraints of Impact Adjustment
  20. 16:14Example: 5-Inch Gong at 500 Yards
  21. 18:15MOA is Finer, Not More Precise
  22. 19:18Right Tool for the Right Job
  23. 20:05Range Estimation: MOA vs MIL
  24. 20:38Upcoming Podcast with Eric Cortina
  25. 21:13Paramount Tactical Training & Gear

Frequently Asked Questions

Why is MIL often considered better than MOA for long-range shooting?

MIL (Milliradian) is often preferred for long-range shooting because its numerical values are simpler to remember and apply, especially when engaging multiple targets or under stress. This reduces the likelihood of calculation errors compared to MOA (Minute of Angle) adjustments.

Does a finer reticle like 1/8 MOA make a rifle more precise?

No, a finer reticle does not inherently make a rifle more precise. The rifle's actual group size at 100 yards is the limiting factor. You cannot reliably adjust impacts finer than the rifle's mechanical accuracy allows, regardless of the optic's adjustment increments.

How does rifle group size affect optic adjustments?

The size of your rifle's group at 100 yards dictates the absolute fidelity of your ability to move an impact reliably. If your rifle shoots a 1 MOA group, you can only move your impact zone by increments that correspond to that group size, not by individual shot precision.

What is the 'Creedmoor Hack' and how does it relate to MIL?

The 'Creedmoor Hack' is a simplification for 6.5 Creedmoor shooters using MIL. For example, 850 yards (8.5) can be simplified by subtracting two, making 6.5 your elevation dope. This works reliably for most 6.5 Creedmoor rifles within a tenth of a MIL.

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