Online Bullies Running Off Newbies | Gun Talk Radio

Published on December 7, 2020
Duration: 8:08

This segment from Gun Talk Radio discusses the challenges new shooters face in online firearms communities, highlighting an incident where a user was attacked for reporting high chronograph velocities from factory .257 Weatherby ammunition. The discussion emphasizes that extreme velocities can be achieved with significantly over-pressure loads, even from factory ammunition, and criticizes the 'online bully' behavior that discourages newcomers. It also touches on the existence of specialized ammunition, like military-grade rounds with curved trajectories.

Quick Summary

Online firearms communities can be hostile, with experienced members sometimes exhibiting 'bully' behavior that drives away newcomers. Extreme velocities, like 3800 fps for .257 Weatherby, can be achieved with significantly over-pressure loads (around 85,000 psi), and signs of such pressure include primers backing out of cases.

Chapters

  1. 00:04Intro to Gun Talk Radio Segment
  2. 00:16Online Firearms Communities
  3. 00:31User's Reloading Question and Backlash
  4. 00:50Reported .257 Weatherby Velocities
  5. 01:06Community Skepticism and Accusations
  6. 01:22Using LabRadar for Ballistics
  7. 01:36Mobbing and Hostile Online Behavior
  8. 01:43Anecdote: Elk Camp and .257 Weatherby
  9. 01:58Primer Retention Issues
  10. 02:22Understanding Extreme Pressure Loads
  11. 02:34Ballistics Expert Consultation
  12. 03:03Contacting Weatherby About Ammunition Issues
  13. 03:20Weatherby's Response and Recall
  14. 03:50The 'Don't Be That Guy' Principle
  15. 04:04Skepticism vs. Openness
  16. 04:20Toxicity in Firearms Communities
  17. 04:26Online Bullies and 'Big Dog' Mentality
  18. 04:52Unsafe but Possible Velocities
  19. 05:00Driving People Away
  20. 05:05Why Bullies Bully
  21. 05:10Standing Up to Online Harassment
  22. 05:21Reporting vs. Confronting
  23. 05:29Potential for Testing Extreme Ammo
  24. 05:53Shooting in a Ruger No. 1
  25. 06:13Advice for Online Interactions
  26. 06:36Jumping on Newcomers
  27. 06:44Using Authority as a Trump Card
  28. 06:53Author's Experience with Weatherby
  29. 07:05Extensive Writing and Editing Experience
  30. 07:14Things That Happen Outside Industry Knowledge
  31. 07:25Unbelievable Ammunition Exists
  32. 07:29Bullets That Curve in Flight
  33. 07:43Military Classified Project
  34. 07:56Cost of Specialized Ammunition

Frequently Asked Questions

Why are online firearms communities sometimes hostile to newcomers?

Online firearms communities can be hostile due to 'bully' behavior where experienced members shut down newcomers who ask questions or report experiences that differ from their own knowledge, creating an unwelcoming environment.

What are extreme velocities achievable with .257 Weatherby ammunition?

Factory .257 Weatherby ammunition with a 117-grain bullet has been reported to chronograph at nearly 3800 feet per second, a velocity achievable with significantly over-pressure loads, potentially around 85,000 psi.

What is LabRadar and how does it measure bullet velocity?

LabRadar is a device that uses Doppler radar to measure bullet velocity. It sits on a shooting bench and points towards the projectile, reading the bullet's Doppler shift without requiring screens.

What are signs of dangerously over-pressure ammunition?

Signs of dangerously over-pressure ammunition include primers backing out or falling out of the case upon ejection, indicating that internal pressures are exceeding safe limits for the firearm and cartridge.

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