Anti-Gunners Pushing Lame Duck Session Gun Control To Make More Prohibited People

Published on December 12, 2022
Duration: 14:21

This video discusses HR 8361, a bill proposed during a lame-duck session that would allow individuals to voluntarily add themselves to the NICS database as prohibited persons. Representative Thomas Massey argues the bill is flawed, ripe for abuse, and could inadvertently criminalize individuals and family members. The discussion highlights concerns about potential misuse for doxing, identity theft, and the VA's practice of adding veterans to the prohibited persons list during benefit reviews without clear adjudication.

Quick Summary

HR 8361, a proposed bill, aims to let individuals voluntarily add themselves to the NICS prohibited persons list. However, critics like Representative Thomas Massey argue it's flawed, ripe for abuse through doxing and identity theft, and could inadvertently criminalize people. Concerns also exist about its effectiveness and potential misuse, similar to VA practices.

Chapters

  1. 00:00Sponsor: Sonoran Desert Institute
  2. 00:40Sponsor: Blackout Coffee
  3. 00:46Introduction of HR 8361
  4. 01:15Bill Details: HR 8361
  5. 01:34Context: FBI Investigation & Veto
  6. 01:58Strategy: Passing Law Under Cover of Night
  7. 02:15Representative Thomas Massey's Input
  8. 02:44Massey: Bill Sounds Good, Doesn't Work
  9. 03:14Massey: Suicide Phenomenon & Gun Ranges
  10. 03:52Massey: Ripe for Abuse - Doxing
  11. 04:53Massey: Mail Submission & Mental Health Professionals
  12. 05:00Massey: Database Expansion Concerns
  13. 05:55Massey: VA Benefits & Brady Criteria
  14. 06:59Massey: VA Letter & Appeal Dilemma
  15. 07:27Massey: Implied Condition for Benefits
  16. 07:53Massey: Intent vs. Actual Language
  17. 08:16Debate: Unlawful Transfer of Firearms
  18. 09:30Markup vs. Intent: U.S. Code Precision
  19. 10:16Disagreement on Bill's Flaws
  20. 10:40Bill is Flawed, Horse is Dead
  21. 11:43Massey: Taking Language Seriously
  22. 12:32Summary of Massey's Points
  23. 13:12Channel Mission: Spreading Truth
  24. 13:50Call to Action: Stay Safe, Carry a Gun

Frequently Asked Questions

What is HR 8361 and why is it controversial?

HR 8361 is a bill proposed during a lame-duck session that would allow individuals to voluntarily add themselves to the NICS database as prohibited persons. Critics argue it's ripe for abuse, could lead to doxing, and may inadvertently criminalize individuals and family members due to flawed language.

How could HR 8361 be abused according to critics?

Critics fear HR 8361 could be abused through identity theft and doxing, where individuals are added to prohibited persons lists without their knowledge. This could happen via mail or electronic submissions, potentially facilitated by malicious actors or even through implied conditions for receiving benefits.

What concerns are raised about the VA's role in firearm prohibition?

The video highlights that the VA may add veterans to the prohibited persons list (Brady Criteria) during benefit reviews, sometimes without clear adjudication. This practice is seen as a potential model for how HR 8361 could be misused, pressuring individuals to submit their names to retain benefits.

What is the main argument against the effectiveness of HR 8361?

Representative Thomas Massey argues that HR 8361 is ineffective because individuals intent on suicide do not need to own a firearm; they can rent one at gun ranges. Therefore, the bill fails to address a significant portion of suicide methods involving firearms.

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