Class stuff and the fake internet controversies

Published on June 30, 2026
Duration: 7:57

Ben Stoeger outlines upcoming training plans and discusses the perceived 'controversies' in the firearms community. He details a schedule of guest instructors for his Arizona classes from October through March, including Nick Young, Dave Banas, Kyle McNabb, and Joel Park. Stoeger also addresses the ongoing debate about red dot sights versus iron sights, asserting that red dots are demonstrably more effective and are standard practice among serious shooters.

Quick Summary

Ben Stoeger views the red dot versus iron sight debate as a 'fake internet controversy,' asserting that red dots are proven to be more effective and are the standard for serious shooters. He notes that professionals and agencies adopting red dots are far ahead of those still using iron sights.

Chapters

  1. 00:00Introduction & Internet Controversies
  2. 00:13Red Dot vs. Iron Sight Debate
  3. 00:22Upcoming Channel Plans
  4. 00:30CZ Shadow 2 & Pro Arms Gun Plans
  5. 00:54Travel Schedule Impact
  6. 01:07Class Registration Strategy
  7. 01:10Arizona Hostings & Guest Instructors
  8. 01:10October: Ben Stoeger Solo
  9. 01:11November: Nick Young (Speed Marksmanship)
  10. 01:26December: Dave Banas (Bananas)
  11. 01:33January: Kyle McNabb (Denver Cop)
  12. 01:41February: Joel Park
  13. 01:53March: Seeking Suggestions
  14. 02:09Intelligent Class Release Strategy
  15. 02:23Next Book: Instructor Level Training
  16. 02:34Focus on Training Group Standards
  17. 02:46Targeting Instructor Audience
  18. 02:53Entertaining Internet Content
  19. 02:56Flooded with Clips (Timney Trigger, Red Dots)
  20. 03:02Cynical View of Firearms Industry
  21. 03:08Critique of 'Shills' (Sheriff of Baghdad, Colleen Noir)
  22. 03:34Fake Internet Conversations
  23. 03:45Red Dots vs. Irons: Not a Real Controversy
  24. 03:519mm vs. .45 Comparison
  25. 03:58Effectiveness of Red Dots
  26. 04:04Law Enforcement Adoption of Red Dots
  27. 04:27Lack of Real Controversy in Internet Debates
  28. 04:36Theoretical Discussions vs. Practical Application
  29. 04:58Viewer Suggestions for Channel Content
  30. 05:14Conclusion

Frequently Asked Questions

What are Ben Stoeger's upcoming training plans?

Ben Stoeger is planning a series of guest instructor classes in Arizona from October to March. These will include sessions with Nick Young, Dave Banas, Kyle McNabb, and Joel Park, focusing on speed and dynamic marksmanship techniques.

Why does Ben Stoeger consider the red dot vs. iron sight debate a 'fake internet controversy'?

Stoeger argues that while debated online, red dot sights are demonstrably more effective and are standard equipment for serious shooters and professionals. He notes that agencies still relying solely on iron sights are significantly behind current practices.

Who are the guest instructors for Ben Stoeger's Arizona classes?

Upcoming guest instructors include Nick Young for speed marksmanship in November, Dave Banas in December, Kyle McNabb (a cop from Denver) in January, and Joel Park in February. March's instructor is yet to be determined.

What is Ben Stoeger's next book about?

Ben Stoeger's upcoming book will be an instructor-level guide centered around the Training Group standards and other performance tests he favors. It will break down how these standards make sense and how to train for them effectively.

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