Should CIVILIANS have access to MILITARY/LEO Guns & Tactics?

Published on August 24, 2023
Duration: 15:18

This discussion explores whether civilians should access military and law enforcement training. While some tactical skills like Close Quarters Battle (CQB) might not be directly applicable to civilian self-defense, the underlying principles of teamwork, situational awareness, and marksmanship are valuable. The conversation highlights the importance of understanding legal contexts, such as citizen's arrest laws, which vary significantly by jurisdiction. Ultimately, the consensus leans towards civilians benefiting from such training for personal development, community building, and preparedness, provided they understand the contextual differences and potential legal ramifications.

Quick Summary

Civilians can access much open-source military tactical information, but specific LE/military training may be restricted due to mission context or ITAR regulations. Understanding legal differences, like citizen's arrest laws, is crucial, as actions permissible for law enforcement may be illegal for civilians. Training is often pursued for personal development and preparedness.

Chapters

  1. 00:00Intro: Civilian Access to Military/LEO Training
  2. 00:20Warrior Poet Society Hosts Discuss Training
  3. 00:40Context-Driven Training for LE/Military
  4. 01:00Internet Discussion: Civilian vs. LE/Military Training
  5. 01:14Trainer's Perspective on Sharing Tactics
  6. 01:24Open Source Military Information
  7. 01:38ITAR Restrictions and Regulations
  8. 02:00Non-US Citizens and Training Limitations
  9. 02:26Constitutionalist View on Training Access
  10. 03:08Second Amendment and Training
  11. 03:15Fear of Standing Armies
  12. 04:08Contextual Applicability of Training
  13. 04:25Civilian Interest in Team CQB
  14. 04:49Community and Masculinity in Training
  15. 05:11Example: Handcuffing Techniques
  16. 05:38Departmental Context and SOPs
  17. 06:11Rules of Engagement Differences
  18. 06:21Legal Ramifications for Civilians
  19. 06:43Citizen's Arrest Laws
  20. 07:11Contextual Justification for Training
  21. 07:26Dangerousness of Solo CQB Practice
  22. 08:14Battlefield Movement vs. Civilian Movement
  23. 09:13Military Field Manuals (FM 7-8)
  24. 09:38Team CQB for Civilian Groups
  25. 10:07Second Amendment as Check Against Tyranny
  26. 10:54Community and Infrastructure Collapse
  27. 11:02Historical Training Institutions (NRA)
  28. 11:53French and Indian War Veterans Training
  29. 12:30World War II Draft and Preparedness
  30. 13:01Core Concepts: Land Navigation, Tactics, Marksmanship
  31. 13:39Benefit of Baseline Understanding
  32. 13:54Masculinity and Challenging Activities
  33. 14:21Understanding Training Applicability
  34. 14:47Concluding Thoughts
  35. 14:52Warrior Poet Society Training Invitation

Frequently Asked Questions

Can civilians legally access military and law enforcement training tactics?

While some military tactics are open-source, ITAR restrictions can limit training for non-US citizens. Law enforcement training often includes mission-specific skills like felony stops that are not typically offered to civilians. The key is understanding legal contexts and the specific applicability of the training to civilian life.

What are the legal considerations for civilians practicing military or law enforcement techniques?

Civilians must be aware that actions permissible for law enforcement, like detaining someone, can be illegal for them (e.g., kidnapping). Citizen's arrest laws vary greatly by jurisdiction, and ignorance of local statutes can lead to severe legal consequences, even if the civilian believes they were acting correctly.

Why might civilians be interested in military or law enforcement-style training?

Civilians often seek this training for personal development, community building, and a healthy outlet for masculinity. While not always directly applicable to home defense, skills like teamwork, situational awareness, and marksmanship are valuable. It's also seen as a way to be better protectors and prepared for potential societal disruptions.

Are military field manuals classified information that civilians cannot access?

No, most military field manuals are not classified and are readily available online to the public. This open-source nature means that the basic tactical information contained within them is generally accessible, though specific advanced techniques or operational details might be restricted.

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